Comments on: Adblock Plus and FilterSet.G http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/ Just another WordPress weblog Sat, 17 May 2008 11:39:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Princess_Frosty http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-6810 Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:10:10 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-6810 Blocking adverts is most certainly not unethical. People have the right to view the web however they please, they are under no obligation to view certain parts of a website when they browse. Some websites exist purely because they make money from advertising and thats not because of some moral obligation on the users part, it's because up until recently there were no reliable ways of blocking online content without also blocking legitimate content. There are no laws against filtering out content from websites, there are no standards in place to stop users from doing so, and so users doing so cannot be breaking any standard, the users are not breaking any code of conduct or any understood or unwritten rules, there's no moral or legal obligation to download adverts, The single greatest reason people put up with adverts is because they do not know of any way to stop it, not because it's unethical to block adverts. There's only one type of person worse than an advertiser in my opinion, and that's the fools who click the adverts who are actually generating revenue for the people advertising, it's the same as people who open spam and read it and actually fall for the scams. If these people didn't exist then advertising and spamming would simply be unprofitable and would naturally cease. Blocking adverts is most certainly not unethical.

People have the right to view the web however they please, they are under no obligation to view certain parts of a website when they browse. Some websites exist purely because they make money from advertising and thats not because of some moral obligation on the users part, it’s because up until recently there were no reliable ways of blocking online content without also blocking legitimate content.

There are no laws against filtering out content from websites, there are no standards in place to stop users from doing so, and so users doing so cannot be breaking any standard, the users are not breaking any code of conduct or any understood or unwritten rules, there’s no moral or legal obligation to download adverts,

The single greatest reason people put up with adverts is because they do not know of any way to stop it, not because it’s unethical to block adverts.

There’s only one type of person worse than an advertiser in my opinion, and that’s the fools who click the adverts who are actually generating revenue for the people advertising, it’s the same as people who open spam and read it and actually fall for the scams. If these people didn’t exist then advertising and spamming would simply be unprofitable and would naturally cease.

]]> by: Sean M. Burke http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-6630 Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:24:33 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-6630 Look out for trolls, folks. Look out for trolls, folks.

]]> by: MIke http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-5611 Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:58:24 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-5611 Antony Shen calls everything unethical. His pro advertisement propaganda machine (Sillydog) opposes Firefox, open source and anything that doesn't run on Macs. Antony Shen calls everything unethical. His pro advertisement propaganda machine (Sillydog) opposes Firefox, open source and anything that doesn’t run on Macs.

]]> by: david b http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-5123 Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:47:59 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-5123 Adblock and filterset.* is perfectly ethical, and effective. I use them, and like them quite a bit. I am also a website owner. If you run a website as a publicly open site where anyone can view all content, then there is no ethical line to be crossed if some of that content isnt consumed. If that content happens to be your ads all the better. If that website is selling its own content as its primary product some gateway needs to erected to block the general public and enforce that. Just like I cant complain if I drop dollar bills and leaflets on the ground and people only pick up the dollar bills. The New York Times and popular science are both mainstream websites that have learned this lesson. They keep premium content for a captive subscription audience. You dont want to do that? ou want to run adverts by the open public? Feel free, but dont get some sort of feeling of entitlement to it. Adblock and filterset.* is perfectly ethical, and effective. I use them, and like them quite a bit. I am also a website owner.

If you run a website as a publicly open site where anyone can view all content, then there is no ethical line to be crossed if some of that content isnt consumed. If that content happens to be your ads all the better.

If that website is selling its own content as its primary product some gateway needs to erected to block the general public and enforce that. Just like I cant complain if I drop dollar bills and leaflets on the ground and people only pick up the dollar bills.

The New York Times and popular science are both mainstream websites that have learned this lesson. They keep premium content for a captive subscription audience. You dont want to do that? ou want to run adverts by the open public? Feel free, but dont get some sort of feeling of entitlement to it.

]]> by: G-bash http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-4911 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:48:22 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-4911 Now its excellent, but i think one day people will find out how to create ads which cant be blocked (eg use all random names or sth similar). If sth like this happens, adblock will be worth nothing Now its excellent, but i think one day people will find out how to create ads which cant be blocked (eg use all random names or sth similar).
If sth like this happens, adblock will be worth nothing

]]> by: Winter Knight http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-3952 Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:25:48 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-3952 I use Filter Set G. Sometimes it goes several months without being updated, but a several month old filter set works almost as well as it did when it was created. And it works very well. i rarely see ads, and if there were any false positives, I just didn't notice. The web is undeniably more beautiful with adblock and filter set g. It is rediculous when people claim that not watching ads is stealing. Where do these people draw the line? Is it okay if I don't look at billboards? What if I go to the bathroom during a commercial break? What if I don't buy CLR? Is channel skipping okay? How 'bout taping songs from the radio? If I don't want to view ads, there is no reason I should. It is my browser, my computer, and I GET THE LAST SAY! As for whatever the deal is between the website owner and their advertisers, that is between them. It ain't none of my business. I use Filter Set G. Sometimes it goes several months without being updated, but a several month old filter set works almost as well as it did when it was created. And it works very well. i rarely see ads, and if there were any false positives, I just didn’t notice. The web is undeniably more beautiful with adblock and filter set g.

It is rediculous when people claim that not watching ads is stealing. Where do these people draw the line? Is it okay if I don’t look at billboards? What if I go to the bathroom during a commercial break? What if I don’t buy CLR? Is channel skipping okay? How ’bout taping songs from the radio?

If I don’t want to view ads, there is no reason I should. It is my browser, my computer, and I GET THE LAST SAY!

As for whatever the deal is between the website owner and their advertisers, that is between them. It ain’t none of my business.

]]> by: a http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-3680 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:20:05 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-3680 also adblock plus .6 by mcm is very good, i still use it till this day. also adblock plus .6 by mcm is very good, i still use it till this day.

]]> by: a http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-3679 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:17:27 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-3679 g is a cool guy i got help from him when i made my own filterset.. i recommend all who despise adverts to use his filter, it's well worth it. g is a cool guy i got help from him when i made my own filterset.. i recommend all who despise adverts to use his filter, it’s well worth it.

]]> by: John http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-3256 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:54:08 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-3256 So it is ethical to bombard me ads... but using a product to eliminate these ads is somehow unethical? Marketing and Advertising has now gotten to a point in the world where people are required to live with it? And in one of places where it is possible to remove the annoying and needless crap from our lives the consumer is somehow at fault? Wow. That is rich. My guess is the fact that it is free is also very unethical. So it is ethical to bombard me ads… but using a product to eliminate these ads is somehow unethical? Marketing and Advertising has now gotten to a point in the world where people are required to live with it? And in one of places where it is possible to remove the annoying and needless crap from our lives the consumer is somehow at fault? Wow. That is rich.

My guess is the fact that it is free is also very unethical.

]]> by: John http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-2785 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:27:44 +0000 http://www.adblock.org/2006/02/adblock-plus-and-filtersetg/#comment-2785 If adblock plus was "ethical" it would id its self to websites. Then its upto that website to block or let that user in. If the only argument is that it saves the users bandwidth from downloading adverts and makes it quicker then bugger off and find another website. Most advertising other than google is display based rather than click based, so by not loading in the image you are hurting these companies you seem so keen to use. If adblock plus was “ethical” it would id its self to websites. Then its upto that website to block or let that user in.

If the only argument is that it saves the users bandwidth from downloading adverts and makes it quicker then bugger off and find another website.

Most advertising other than google is display based rather than click based, so by not loading in the image you are hurting these companies you seem so keen to use.

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